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Brothers and sisters, stop selling us out!

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I love Rachel Maddow (above); Melissa Etheridge (below), um, not so much…

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So if MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow is my favorite dyke* right now — and she is — then musician Melissa Etheridge is my least-favorite dyke right about now.

Etheridge wrote a surreal piece on The Huffington Post in which she wrote that Prick Warren isn’t such a bad guy after all.

Apparently Prick Warren isn’t such a bad guy because he told Etheridge that he is a fan of hers and has almost all of her CDs!

Gee! That makes the fact that he asserts that she and the rest of us gay men and lesbians should be denied our constitutionally guaranteed equal civil and human rights perfectly OK then, doesn’t it?

You know, a baby boomer is a baby boomer, and even the “good,” “liberal” baby boomers like Etheridge tend to suck ass, tend to make it all about themselves and their petty little egos, which never can be satisfied.

Etheridge asserts that Prick Warren — whom she affectionately refers to as “Pastor Rick” — ain’t so bad because he likes her work.** Her ego strokes are far more important than are the equal civil and human rights of gay men and lesbians and others who don’t fit into the heterosexist mold.

Oh, not that it’s just Etheridge’s ego strokes. She’s scheduled to attend President-elect Barack Obama’s inauguration — to which you’d have to drag my dead or unconscious body — and she probably doesn’t want to see a decline in sales of her music because of the Prick Warren flap.

Thank you, Melissa Etheridge, for (probably) putting your personal finances above my equal human and civil rights. You rock — not! (In her surreally turncoat screed on The Huffington Post, Etheridge also speaks out against boycotts; she probably fears a boycott herself…)

Not just to pick on Etheridge; there are plenty of turncoats on the guys’ side. This idiot asserts that we should push for separate and unequal civil unions instead of equal marriage rights, and this retard also suggests that we raise the white flag of surrender on same-sex marriage (apparently, you see, we can’t work on global warming and human rights at the same time, and we gay men and lesbians are stupid and/or selfish for wanting our equal human and civil rights while the global warming problem still looms!).

Memo to the turncoat fucktards: We are pretty fucking close to getting same-sex marriage reinstated in the state of California. Let’s get that done, mmmmmk? Let’s not drop the pink football on this one!

No, we are not going to get same-sex marriage in all 50 states any day soon. You are correct about that.

But you are incorrect in asserting that civil unions are the way to go. Separate is not — NOT — equal. Never was, is not, and never will be.

Once we have same-sex marriage in the nation’s most populous state, other states will follow suit. That’s the way to go — not to fucking beg for fucking scraps, but to get the real deal state by state.

And we can work on more than one issue/problem at once. Not only can we work on global warming and securing same-sex marriage rights, but we can continue to work on other rights issues for non-heterosexuals as well. (Many of us gay men and lesbians have no desire to legally marry anyone, but those same-sex couples who do wish to legally marry should be able to do so. That you are a non-heterosexual who personally has no desire to marry someone of the same sex doesn’t mean that it’s OK that others may not legally marry someone of the same sex. Duh.)

Same-sex marriage is a the central front in the war for full gay and lesbian/non-heterosexual rights. The homo-haters know this, which is why they are fighting against same-sex marriage.

If we let them win, we lose.

If you don’t have the stomach for the fight, then stay the fuck out of the fight. But don’t tell the rest of us that our fully equal human and civil rights aren’t worth fighting for.

*I’m a gay man and I love my gay sisters, so I may use the term “dyke.”

**As yet another painful example of why celebrities probably don’t make the best bloggers, Etheridge actually wrote these words: “…I received a call from Pastor Rick, and before I could say anything, he told me what a fan he was. He had most of my albums from the very first one. What? This didn’t sound like a gay hater, much less a preacher….”

Um, my naive little Melissa daaahling, I’m guessing that Adolf Hitler liked music, too…

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Prick Warren speaks with forked tongue

I noticed this yesterday but didn’t comment on it at the time. I should have.

In his little “news and views” (nice euphemism for “propaganda”) video for his congregants, Prick Warren tells his congregants that he absolutely never compared same-sex marriage to incestual marriage or pedophilic marriage. He stated that his comments during his interview with Beliefnet had been taken out of context, distorted.

I had thought that maybe he was telling the truth.

But then I saw the actual video clip of his interview with Beliefnet, and yeah, it’s pretty fucking inarguable that the motherfucking liar indeed compared same-sex marriage to pedophilic and incestual marriage (and to polygamy, too; for some reason he left bestiality out…).

It’s a long video on Prick Warren — almost 15 minutes long — with MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow, but it’s worth watching in its entirety. Maddow rocks to the extent that Prick Warren sucks ass to the point that he should just donate his organs now so that someone else can make better use of them.

Oh, and you have to see San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom, a Democrat, in his interview with Maddow, tap dance around the fact that in San Francisco he has to be pro-gay and lesbian in order to survive politically, but President-elect Barack Obama, like Prick Warren, publicly opposes same-sex marriage and has thrown gay men and lesbians under the bus, yet Newsom has to cozy up to the president-elect, too.

In his interview Newsom doesn’t quite make it work with Maddow, who lets him off way too easily (I guess that she wanted to be able to interview him again…), and if you have a pulse you will see that Newsom has sold his soul to the Democratic Party machine — which is why when he ran for mayor in 2003 I gave his opponent, Matt Gonzalez of the Green Party, a campaign donation even though I live in Sacramento. (Despite the fact that Newsom brought in the Democratic Party machine’s biggest guns, including Billary Clinton and Al Gore, to campaign for him, despite the fact that he outspent Gonzalez by at least 4 to 1, and despite the fact that the number of San Francisco residents registered under the Green Party was less than 5 percent, Gonzalez lost to Democratic Party hack Newsom by only single digits.)

But back to Prick Warren:

That he feels the need to bold-facedly lie to his own congregants about his hateful, ignorant, bigoted comments on same-sex marriage demonstrates that increasingly, open homophobia, just like open racism, is becoming less and less socially acceptable among polite/”polite” company.

Not that someone isn’t a homophobe because he or she doesn’t make overtly homophobic remarks.* But when the haters are in an environment that is not conducive to their hate, it’s harder for their hate to thrive.

And you know what? Lying is a sin, even if you’re a stupid white male baby-boomer pastor who has made millions of dollars from “The Secret”-like bullshit books and spin-offs. (I love how baby boomers — who have nearly destroyed the nation — write self-help and advice books, because clearly they know what they’re doing and thus we should follow them. I mean, the proof is in the pudding, no?)

And if Prick Warren will lie through his fangs to his congregants about what he said on camera, what does that say about his character?

Prick Warren is one of the false prophets that the Bible warns you about.

P.S. OK, another video clip of Rachel Maddow on Prick Warren. If you don’t want to watch the full almost-15-minute video clip that I referenced above, you can watch this shorter one (it’s under three minutes) that captures Warren’s bold-faced lie using the two clips of him side by side.

And also in this clip of Maddow’s show, Warren pretty much asserts that when his opponents voice their opposition to him, it’s “hate speech,” but that everything that he and his supporters can only be construed as wuv. Fucking hypocrite.

And it’s funny (in a deeply unsettling sort of way) when wingnuts like Prick Warren talk about how much they just wuv free speech when you know that if they could silence their detractors, they wouldn’t hesitate to do so.

In the video clips of Warren that I’ve watched, it’s pretty apparent that he claims that he “loves” gay men and lesbians only because the Bible instructs that we all must love one another, and that he advocates free speech only because it’s enshrined in the U.S. Constitution. Warren very apparently does not feel the spirit of love or the spirit of free speech within his being, and it’s only written codes, apparently, that stop him from expressing what’s truly in his heart, which is hatred and violence (silencing your opponents falls under violence, in my book).

I mean, if the wingnuts could alter the U.S. Constitution to strip their opponents of free-speech rights, do you think that they’d hesitate for a fucking heartbeart to do so? With Proposition 8, the wingnuts tried to strip gay men and lesbians of their equal human and civil rights guaranteed to them by the California Constitution. (The Repugnican-dominated California Supreme Court, which in May ruled that the California Constitution guarantees the right to same-sex marriage, will, I surmise, strike down Proposition 8 as California’s attorney general, among others, has asked the court to do.)

Last but certainly not list, in this second video clip of Maddow’s show, Warren also uses the term “Christophobia” to describe his opponents. Let me set the lying, motherfucking false prophet straight (so to speak…) on that:

If “Christians” of Warren’s ilk actually followed the teachings of Jesus Christ, I’d love them to death. See, I’ve actually read the New Testament, and Jesus Christ says not a single fucking word on the topic of homosexuality. The “Christo”fascists pull all of their homophobic rhetoric from the Old Testament, because the Old Testament is full of ignorance and fear, and thus the “Christo”fascists gravitate to the Old Testament. (About the only thing they like about the New Testament is the Book of Revelations, which, like the Old Testament, is chock full o’ ignorance and fear, and which has nothing to do with Jesus Christ, but which was fabricated long after his death.)

Now, to me, if you are a Christian, that means that you actually follow the teachings of Jesus Christ, who taught things like love and acceptance — true love and acceptance, not the kind of “love and acceptance” in which you try to strip gay men and lesbians of their constitutionally guaranteed equal civil and human rights and/or assert that they’re (probably) going to hell — but still claim that you wuv them nonetheless.

Jesus Christ was not like a red-state fucktard (boy, that’s redundant). Jesus Christ was a flaming liberal, a progressive radical:

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Jesus Christ rocked.

I’m not a “Christophobe.” I’m a pseudoprophetophobe.

I don’t hate Jesus Christ or true Christians, who are exceedingly rare. I hate false prophets like Prick Warren, who claim that when you attack them for their evil you are attacking Jesus Christ — because the Prick Warrens of the world, in their arrogance and in their blasphemy, compare themselves to God and to Jesus Christ, when, in fact, they paradoxically are about as anti-Christian as you can get.

*My maternal grandmother, who waited far too long to die, was a huge fucking racist who knew that it was politically incorrect to make overtly racist comments in “polite”/polite company. But her racist views were glaringly apparent nonetheless from her “nice” racist statements. 

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Prick Warren WUVS you — even though you’re going to HELL

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President-elect Barack Obama pals around with Pastor Rick (Prick for short) Warren at Warren’s mega-church in Orange County, Calif., in August. Warren, whom Obama has chosen to deliver the invocation at his inauguration next month, believes that the only sexual activity that is acceptable is sexual activity between a man and a woman who are married to each other for life. (He says so explicitly here. And yes, he says “for life,” which indicates that he opposes divorce and remarriage as well as homosexuality.) Gee, I had thought that the Obama Era of “hope” and “change” was going to end the Dark Ages…

Oh. My. God.

I just watched (more than once) a six-and-a-half minute video of Prick Warren — it’s a video message to his congregation that is less than a week 0ld — and he is almost as smooth as is Barack Obama. He hates fags and dykes, he makes clear in his message — it’s not difficult to read between the lines — but he tells you so oh so nicely.

Warren doesn’t hate gay men and lesbians, because he has to love everyone, he tells us — but, of course, he informs us ominously, all of us have the choice as to whether we follow God’s mandates or not. (Translation: Fags and dykes are going to hell. But he wuvs us fags and dykes. Because the Bible says he has to.)

Warren makes the rather bizarre “argument” that he has nothing against gay men and lesbians — even though he says that the only sexual activity that is acceptable is between a man and a woman who are married for life — but that gay men and lesbians just can’t use the word “marriage.” Really? Why? He’s OK with same-sex couplings (“partnerships,” he calls them) but he’s going to quibble over what we call such couplings?

Shit. I wish Warren would just call for the execution of us gay men and lesbians. It would be more direct and more honest as to what’s really in his heart. Clearly he believes that he and his brainwashed followers are going to heaven and that gay men and lesbians are going to hell. But that’s not hate ’cause he’s not a hater!

Warren reminds me of a co-worker I once had who told me that she didn’t hate gay men and lesbians — because she was no hater! — but that she fully believed that gay men and lesbians were going to suffer whatever punishments are prescribed for them in the Bible (hellfire was the punishment, I believe she asserted, but that was years ago). Actually, come to think of it, I have had (at least) two different co-workers who told me that they have nothing against gay men and lesbians but that they believe that homosexuality is a sin — no offense!

Anyway, first in the video, Prick Warren bashes the mainstream media — and bloggers — and warns his audience of churchgoers to be careful not to believe everything that they hear or read. Because only he is the purveyor of absolute truth, of course! (Kind of like how when a new weight-loss program is rolled out, the purveyors of it claim that all of the other weight-loss programs don’t work but that this one does!)

Warren also pontificates that the media love to “create” conflict and he asserts that where no conflict exists, the media will create it. What he’s really saying is that he’s as innocent and pure as the driven snow, and that all of the controversy about him in the media has been just the fabrication of conflict.

No, it’s real fucking conflict; it’s not media-created. President-elect Barack Obama is palling around with a stupid white man who opposes women’s reproductive rights and same-sex marriage rights, and we, Obama’s base, those of us who put his ass into office, have a real fucking problem with that. Our anger is quite real, fuck you very much, Prick Warren.

And Warren’s rant against bloggers sure makes it sound like he thinks that the First Amendment for the masses is a pretty bad idea.* Those American citizens who actually exercise the First Amendment — only when Warren disagrees with them, of course — should “get a life,” he proclaims. Which really means: Shut up! Only mega-churches that can afford to get their messages out — and those who agree with the mega-churches — should be allowed to excercise the rights guaranteed by the First Amendment, thank you.

Yes, Prick Warren is yet another friendly fascist (and also a “compassionate conservative”?), which makes you have to wonder about Barack Obama: He wuvs us fags and dykes too, he claims, but he won’t publicly support same-sex marriage either, because while separate sure isn’t equal for him, he asserts that separate is equal for us gay men and lesbians.

*“A lot of people think that because they can sit in the quietness of their own home and hide behind the screen, they can hurl all kinds of bombs at people and get away with it,” Warren huffs in the video. That sure sounds like a thinly veiled threat to bloggers to me, but then he concludes: “Well, no, they’re just being rude.”

But gee, Prick, can we bloggers with whom you disagree “get away with it”?

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It’s official: I regret my vote for Obama

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Pastor Rick Warren — who looks like a Jerry Falwell Jr. to me — has compared same-sex marriage to incest, pedophilia and polygamy and opposes a woman’s constitutionally protected right to have an abortion. Yet President-elect Barack Obama invited him to deliver the invocation at his inauguration anyway.

As I blogged at the time, when I had my ballot in front of me on Nov. 4, I was down to two choices for president of the United States of America: Ralph Nader or Barack Obama.

My heart mostly was with Ralph, but I figured that since Obama was going to win all of California’s 55 electoral votes anyway, it wouldn’t hurt to go ahead and blacken the oval for the nation’s first non-white president.

But now, I regret that I filled in that oval. I feel majorly chumped — or punk’d, as the young ones still say (I think…).

The United States of America has many problems, but perhaps first and foremost is the problem that in the USA, lots of -isms are lumped together into one big ugly mass:

In no certain order, in the U S of A, Christianism = nationalism = patriotism = patriarchalism = sexism = heterosexism = racism = militarism = capitalism = white supremacism = xenophobism. (That’s not an exhaustive list of -isms, and I know that some of those -isms aren’t actually -isms, but as a blogger I can write whatever the hell I want.)   

So in the United States we have this huge ugly ball of wax in which one thing automatically means another such to the point that, for instance, it’s widely believed that God and Jesus hate faggots but love “freedom” bombs being dropped upon Arab and Muslim babies (kill em before they can become terrorists, nip it in the bud is the thinking, I guess).

One of the many national “leaders” who represents this ugly ball of wax is socially conservative baby-boomer pastor Rick Warren, whom President-elect Obama has chosen to deliver the invocation at his inauguration next month.

The millions of gay men and lesbians who voted for Obama and his bullshit promises of “hope” and “change” are pretty pissed off that Obama has chosen a pro-Proposition 8/anti-gay stupid white man from California to deliver the invocation.

Maybe Obama can invite the Ku Klux Klan Fire Dancers to perform at his inaugural. I mean: WTF?

With apologies to Bill Maher, New Rule:

The concepts of “inclusiveness,” “tolerance” and the like do not — NOT encompass the extension of inclusiveness and tolerance and the like to haters such as Rick Warren, who represent the old, dying order of oppressive rule by stupid white men who hate and oppress women, non-whites, non-Christians, gay men and lesbians, those from other nations, et. al., et. al.

Barack Obama is not being “cool” or “inclusive” or “tolerant” or “open” or “democratic” or anything like that by inviting an oppressor to have a prominent role at his inauguration.

Obama isn’t thinking outside of the box; he’s thinking with his head up his ass, and he’s quickly losing the support of those who voted for him before he has even taken the oath of office.

If I could do it over again, I would have voted for Ralph Nader.

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